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Six Year Loan in 10 Months
Back in October, I mentioned that we were taking on more debt.

Our plan was:
We now have a car loan for $21564. Our plan is to sell the Caliber for $9500 and the F150 for $6800. That will leave $5354. We have a beneficiary IRA that has to be cashed out relatively soon, so we’re planning to do that early in January to push the tax burden to next year, which will end the loan.
How has that worked out?
We made the final payment on the Tahoe today. Our first payment was December 10, 2012. It took us 10 months to pay off six year loan.
We had initially hoped to have it paid off by March. That didn’t happen. Our plan didn’t work, so how did we do it?
Here’s what happened:
We sold the F150 for $6400, cash.
We still haven’t cashed out the IRA.
We sold the Dodge Caliber for $8500, but….
(This is where the story starts.)
While we were fixing up our rental house, we met quite a few repairmen and installers of various expensive doo-dads. Several of them were interested in buying the Caliber. One of them convinced my wife that we should accept payments for it. That’s a mistake we’ve made before, but we decided to make it again.
We wrote up a loan agreement, listed ourselves as the lien holder on the title and sold the guy a car for $1500/month with no interest. It was supposed to be paid off in just a few month, so it didn’t seem like that big of a deal.
He made two payments, then disappeared for a while.
When he re-materialized, he told us he’d been in the hospital and had lost his job.
Crap.
When the time came to make his next payment, he told us he was going into the hospital for a couple of weeks, and he’d work something out after.
It’s “that kind” of hospital. The dry kind.
Suddenly, it was May and he was telling us his sister would help make payments because drinking yourself into rehab once a month makes it hard to keep a job.
Stories, excuses, BS.
Finally, we got sick of it. I like helping people, but I despise being lied to.
Repo time.
In Minnesota, if you’ve ever taken action(or not taken action) that would make it appear that you were okay with a modified payment plan contrary to the loan agreement–for example, not taking the car back after the first missed payment–you have to send a “Letter to Cure”, which is a 10-day notice of intent to repo. This gives the customer a chance to make things right.
On day 8, he called us, fresh from rehab, promising his sister would help him out. On day 10, she called. Her business had been broken into and she was working that out, but she’d arrange something with us after the weekend.
Crap, that sounds like more excuses.
Remember, this was already August, and the car was supposed to have been paid in early April. We’re such suckers.
By the middle of the week, she called and said she’d make the payment. My wife and I decided that we’d give her three days, then go take the car. On day 2, she said she was overnighting money.
On day three, we got a check and two postal money orders to cover the balance. $4500.
Today is the 10th day from that deposit. The check has cleared, and payment is off to the bank, killing the loan.
But wait, 4500 + 6400 is only $10,900. That leave $10,664 unaccounted for.
From the beginning, we were making double payments. Instead of paying $425 per month, we paid $850 most months, except when things got a little tight over the summer. The tax refund we got that we weren’t expecting also went to the loan. Every extra dollar got sent to the bank, because we weren’t sure how the car loan drama was going to end.
Taking the cars we sold out of the equation, we still paid off the remaining $10,664 in just 10 months. Interest payments came to about $300, which the buyer of the Caliber says he wants to pay us, but I’m not counting on it.
So again, we are debt free and have just freed up $850 in our monthly budget. Half of that will be getting saved for the next car, and half will go towards our other savings goals.
10 Ways to Secure Your Kids Against Debt
Everybody wants their children to do well. I want my kids to grow up without making my mistakes. Here are a few ways to help them avoid debt.
- Talk to your kids about money. Your kids will never learn how to handle their finances if nobody teaches them how. This is important. The factor that contributes most to stress, divorce, long hours, and unhappiness can’t be left to chance.
- Set a good example. Spend less than you have and let them see you doing it. No matter what you tell your kids, if they see you doing otherwise, they will learn the bad lesson. Money, work, relationships. They all need attention, and your kids are watching you manage each of them. Make them proud.
- Open a savings account for them, and let them fill it. Teach them the value of their money by letting them work for it, watch it accumulate, and spend it on something they care about. I make my kids work to convince me to make a withdrawal, so they know it is only for the important things. I don’t, however, decide what is important for them.
- Start a college fund. $100 or $10, it doesn’t matter. Start putting something aside today. College costs keep rising. In 10 years, or 20, you can be sure that college will cost more than it does today. Last year, nearly two-thirds of students graduating with a four-year degree did so with an average debt of more than $23,000. Anything you can do to move your kids towards the debt-free 35% will help. They will thank you for it for the rest of their lives. Remember, they are in charge of choosing your nursing home.
- Teach delayed gratification. Don’t let them think that every whim needs to be satisfied…ever, let alone immediately. Sometimes, anticipation improves the act. When I am looking forward to a good meal for a few days or weeks, I really savor it when I finally do get the chance to eat it. If they want everything they see, make them figure out what they want most, and what it will take to get it.
- Teach them to balance a checkbook. This is one of life’s basic skills that far too many people are lacking. If you can’t balance your checkbook, how do you know what you have? If you don’t know what you have, how can you know what you’re able to spend on necessities, or even luxuries? Knowing where you are is at least as important as knowing where you are going.
- Give them control of money. This is the best time to learn how to manage money. Give them an allowance and make it big enough to cover school lunch and bus fare. Let them practice real-world skills and, more importantly…
- Let them make mistakes with it. This is their opportunity to make financial mistakes that won’t haunt them for years or decades. Let them have some money and let them screw it up. When they can’t buy the new game, or can’t fix their car, they will learn. It’s better to do that as teenagers living at home than as adults forced to move back home.
- Let them see your pride in their good decisions. If they do well, tell them. Let their endorphin rush come from your praise instead of their purchase. You aren’t helping them by getting them hooked on the latest gadget. You are helping them by making them feel good about making the right decisions.
- Beat them with a stick.
How do you protect your kids’ future finances from the kids themselves?
Carnival Roundups: The Weaponized Syphilis Edition
Last weekend, I was in Denver for the Financial Blogger Conference. Last week, I had a sore throat that got worse each day until my tonsils started touching on Friday. I could barely talk, so I went to the doctor, then to bed.
It apparently wasn’t strep throat, but beyond that, it could be anything from motaba to weaponized syphilis*.
This is one of those occasions when I’m happy to be living in the future, where a quick trip to the clinic can knock out what would have been hopeless and fatal and few hundred years ago. Antibiotics and a day spent in bed watching super hero movies made me better. That beats bloodletting any day.
Live Real, Now was included in the following carnivals recently:
Yakezie Carnival: FINCON Edition hosted by Finance Product Reviews
Carnival of Money Pros hosted by My University Money
Carnival of Retirement #36 hosted by Making Sense of Cents
Carnival of Personal Finance #377 hosted by Money Life and More
Yakezie Carnival: Labor Day Edition hosted by Stock Trend Investing
Yakezie Carnival: The Best of Summer Edition hosted by On Target Coach
Carnival of Money Pros hosted by Simple Finance Blog
Carnival of Retirement #34 hosted by My Family Finances
Lifestyle Carnival #17 hosted by The Free Financial Advisor
Yakezie Carnival: Dog Days of Summer Edition hosted by Frugal Portland
Carnival of Money Pros: Back to School Edition hosted by See Debt Run
Nerdy Finance #7 hosted by Nerd Wallet
Yakezie Carnival hosted by The College Investor
Yakezie Carnival – Rescue Edition hosted by See Debt Run
Carnival of Financial Camaraderie #45 hosted by My University Money
Carnival of Money Pros hosted by Aaron Hung
Carnival of Retirement #32 hosted by Young Family Finance
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* Weaponized Syphilis
This involves giving each of the syphilis spirochetes an M16 and a Manifest Destiny indoctrination before releasing them into the wild. The transport mechanism (the “insertion method”) remains as fun as ever.
Have a great weekend!
Carnival Roundup
Live Real, Now was included in the following carnivals recently:
Yakezie Carnival hosted by Consumer FU
Finance Carnival for Young Adults hosted by PF Carny
Carnival of Money Pros hosted by Savvy Scot
Carnival of Retirement #63 hosted by Midlife Finances
Yakezie Carnival hosted by Thirty Six Months
Carnival of Money Pros hosted by Making Sense of Cents
Carnival of Financial Independence #7 hosted by Reach Financial Independence
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Saturday Roundup – Holiday Edition
Merry Christmas.
Or, Happy Saturday, as the case may be.
T0day, we are herding all of my nieces, nephews, brothers, sisters-in-law, and parents into my house for a second Christmas dinner and gift exchange. It’s the first holiday we’ve hosted. It should be interesting.
On a side note, we’ve gotten so much snow, I’ve almost lost my grill, sitting on my deck. Another 2-3 inches, and my patio table will be just a white mound of cold.
Best Posts
Here is a great story about waking up the Christmas spirit. That’s spirit, not spirits. We’re not discussing booze.
Think you can retire on a million bucks? Think you can get to a million bucks?
I’ve recently realized that I’ve spent more time on the hiring side of the interview table than the out-of-work side. I’m nowhere close to 500 hires, though.
Oooh! Shopping for money! That’s something I’m going to look into. Nothing like turning habits into cash.
This is some serious travel hacking. 15 flight, 16 cities, 9 countries, 35000 miles for $400.
LRN Timewarp
This is where I review the posts I wrote one year ago.
The secret to fearless change? Just get started. Everything else will follow.
I also wrote a post about one of my core values. Without integrity, what can you really have?
Finally, a post on how distractions will kill your productivity.
Carnivals I’ve Rocked
How Much Should You Tip? was an Editor’s Pick in the Festival of Frugality. Thanks!
Shaving for Real was included in the Carnival of Money Stories.
Anchor Price Your Salary was included in the Carnival of Personal Finance.
Thank you! If I missed anyone, please let me know.
Get More Out of Live Real, Now
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That’s all for today. Have a great weekend!