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Debanking

By Jason 4 Comments

I’m overbanked.

The National Bank, Oamaru, built 1871: a prostyle Palladian portico on a neoclassical facade (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I’ve mentioned that before.

I won’t give up my herd of CapitalOne 360 accounts. I use those to track my savings goals, all 17 of them. I can’t drop my business accounts, my kids’ savings accounts, or the personal accounts that I actually use to spend money.

I do, however, need to simplify a bit.

Last month, I went through the hassle of transferring my 401k from two jobs ago and my IRA from my last job. Now, I’m down to just two retirement accounts. One is for my current job, and the other is a self-managed IRA with Sharebuilder.

Two down.

A few months ago, I went to yet another bank to close an account. My last job offered crappy health insurance, but balanced it out with an HSA. It complicated things, but the actual costs came to almost the same as the previous plan that didn’t have a high deductible. When I left, my HSA just sat there.

Last year, my oldest got braces, so I cleaned out the HSA ahead of time so we could pay up front and save 5% without paying interest.

Another one down.

That’s three accounts down out of 34.

Thirty-four?

Crap. That’s retirement accounts, business accounts, and personal accounts for two adults and three kids.

Bank 1 has the checking account we use, plus two savings accounts, one of which is where we store the rent money until we take a payday.

Bank 2 has a checking account, 16 savings accounts, and stock-trading account, a CD, and two IRAs for my wife and I.

Bank 3 has a checking account, and savings account for each of two businesses I own, a spare set of personal accounts, a savings account for each of the kids, and a checking account for my teenager.

Bank 4 holds nothing but my current 401k.

The only thing I can simplify without sacrificing my organizational jungle is to combine the personal accounts from bank 1 and 3. The problem is that Bank 1 has all of my bill pay information and there is still an account open for my mother-in-law’s estate. We keep that open just in case we find any other checks we need to cash. Bank 3 has my business accounts tied to my personal account and is the bank that my business partner uses, so that’s convenient to move money around.

I may be stuck.

Filed Under: Finance Tagged With: Capital One, Health savings account, HSA, National Bank, Oamaru, Palladian architecture, Savings account, ShareBuilder, Transactional account, Wikipedia
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3 Ways to Keep Your Finances Organized

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The National Bank, Oamaru, built 1871: a prostyle Palladian portico on a neoclassical facade (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I have 16 personal savings accounts, 3 personal checking accounts, 2 business checking accounts, and 2 business savings accounts. That’s 23 traditional bank accounts, spread across 3 banks. Just talking about that gives my wife a headache.

Every account has a reason. Three of the savings accounts exist just to make the matching checking accounts free. One of the checking accounts handles all of my regular spending that isn’t put on my rewards card. 14 of the savings accounts are CapitalOne 360 accounts that have specific goals attached. A couple of the accounts were opened to boost the sales numbers for a friend who is a banker. Really, it’s almost too much to keep track of. One credit card, 5 checking accounts, 18 savings account, all on 4 websites.

Sometimes, when you extend your bank accounts this far, it gets easy to let it all slip away and lose track of where your money is going. How do I keep track of it all?

1. Simplify

Whoa, you say? Simplify? I don’t simplify the number of accounts I have, I simplify the tracking, or specifically, the need to track.

Twice a month, I have an automated transfer that moves a chunk of money from my main checking account to C1360. I have a series of transfers set up there that move that money around to each of my savings goals. I move $100 to the vacation account, $75 to the braces account, and $10 to the college fund, among all of the other transfers. Doing that eliminates any need to keep track of the transfers, since it is all automated.

Using the same rules, I make every possible payment happen automatically, so I don’t have to worry about paying the gas bill or sending a check to the insurance company.

Simple.

2. Complicate

As you saw in the opening sentence of this post, I also complicate the hell out of my accounts. On the surface, it would seem like that would make it harder to keep track, but in reality, the opposite is true. I have 14 savings accounts at C1360, each for a specific savings goal, like paying my property taxes or going to the to Financial Blogger Conference in October. I can log in to my account and tell at a glance exactly how much money I have for each of my goals. In the account nickname, I include how much each goal is for, so I can easily see if I am on track.

3. Quicken

Everything I do gets set up in Quicken. This makes it easy to track how much actual money I have available. Since I’ve moved my daily expenses to a credit card, I only have about a dozen entries to worry about when I balance my checkbook at the end of the month. At that time, any excess funds get dropped into my debt snowball.

This may all leave me with a needlessly complicated system, but it’s a system that grew slowly to meet my needs and it is working well for me. I spend about 2 hours a month tracking my finances, and can-at any time-tell at a glance exactly how my finances look.

How do you keep your finance organized? Have you tried any unique savings strategies?

 

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Filed Under: Finance Tagged With: Bank, credit card, Quicken, Transactional account
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Checking Account for Punk

By Jason 2 Comments

Punk is 13. He’s a good kid. He’s bright, well-mannered, hooked on MineCrack.

We just opened his first checking account.

It started when a friend called. He works at a bank and owed a banker a favor, so he asked me to open a new checking account. I’m overbanked, so we decided to open an account for Punk. He wouldn’t even have to know.

After we filled out the paperwork, I started thinking about it.

He’s been money-conscious since he figured out basic math. We’d offer to buy a $5 toy and he’d scour the toy aisles looking for the best deals, weighing the pros and cons of all of his options.

When he wants to buy something now, he doesn’t come to me without a compelling argument why I should let him.

He gets himself to school in the morning, and almost always does his homework without prompting.

He’s a pretty responsible kid. Teenagers are-by definition-stupid, but I generally trust his judgment.

We decided to let him have access to the account, then promptly forgot about the whole thing.

Last night, he asked if he could buy some package for some MineCraft server. That handy reminder made me actually take the steps to activate his debit card and have “the talk”. Money, not sex.

I taught him how to use a checkbook register and told him that if the balance on the bank’s site ever disagrees with his register, I was taking the card away.

I explained the pain of overdraft fees.

I taught him a bit about credit card fraud and how to avoid it.

I handed him the packet of documents and told him he has to read them all. All of them. My roommate laughed at me over that requirement.

From there, he opened a Paypal account, attached his card to it, and has free rein.

It’s his money, he can make these decisions. It’s low stakes, so there’s no need to stick my nose into it unless he asks. Even if he totally messes up, it can’t hurt too bad at this point, and he’ll learn an important lesson when his next meal isn’t on the line.

Next, we’ll take him down to get a state ID, so he won’t have a problem using the card in a store.

Welcome to adult finances, Punk.

What do you think is the right age for a checking account?

 

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Filed Under: Finance, Parenting Tagged With: Bank, Debit card, MineCraft, Paypal, Transactional account
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Overbanked

By Jason 6 Comments

Last week, when I mentioned that I lost my phone, there was some interest in my self-insurance warranty plan.

Post Office Savings history

Image by brizzle born and bred via Flickr

The truth is, that’s just one of 14 savings accounts I keep. I find it’s simpler to keep track of my savings goals by moving the money to separate accounts than to track everything in a spreadsheet. This lets me tell how I’m doing at a glance.

I have one account each at two major traditional banks. These savings accounts exist to provide a target for an automatic transfer that eliminates fees on the associated checking accounts. Whenever much money accumulates here, I sweep it out and throw it at my credit card.

I also have 12 accounts at INGDirect. I chose ING because they are extremely convenient and, at least at the time, had a competitive interest rate. Different countries have different banking options.

Here are the rest my accounts:

  1. Emergency fund. I deposit $25 every month. I also keep part of my emergency fund in a CD that’s also at ING.
  2. Property tax fund. Every month, I deposit a bit more than a twelfth of my annual property tax bill. When the time comes to pay, I just transfer the money from my account to the tax assessor. It works well.
  3. College fund. Yes, this is a straight savings account. Right now, I’m focused on debt, not college. When my debt is gone I’ll ramp this up. I started this just to get started. From here, it’s a few seconds of work to increase the amount I contribute, which is currently $10 per month.
  4. Warranty fund. Instead of buying warranties, or going into a panic when something breaks, I deposit $50 into this account every month. When something breaks, I take the money out of this account(assuming I have enough) and use it to replace or repair whatever is missing. $50 isn’t a lot to contribute, if you have things breaking every week. I go several months without touching this money, and it’s always been enough to cover what we need.
  5. Vacation fund. This is pure fun money. I sock away a bit out of every check, and occasionally when other money comes in. Then, we plan our vacation around how much money we have here and how many points we have saved on our credit card. Vacations seem like a luxury when we’ve got debt, but I work so much and miss so much of my kids, day to day, that I consider this a necessity. It’s a week of downtime with my family, doing something they will remember. It’s worth it, several times over.
  6. Braces fund. So far, we know that two of our kids are going to end up in braces. One of them will probably be this year. We had more in this account, but stole some to cover our vision therapy bill. When our insurance reimbursement finally comes back, that will go straight into this account.
  7. Camera fund. My wife really wants a prosumer-level camera, so I started an account to save for it. If we go over budget, this is the first account we raid, since this is purely a luxury.
  8. Personal goal accounts. We each have a goal account set up for things that don’t affect the family. As a practical matter, I save to go to FINCON and a hunting trip with my Dad and my brother, while my wife saves for a couple of scrapbooking retreats each year. These accounts are funded solely from extra money and don’t have an automatic deposit.
  9. Car fund. This started as a car repair fund, with a $50 deposit each month. When my car was finally paid off last year, I took half of my car payment and redirected it into this account, to help us pay cash for our next car. Last month, I stole some money from this account to play stockbroker. It wasn’t a lot of money, but I’ve gotten a 25% return over the last 6 weeks.
  10. Internet. This is just a convenient account to catch money that gets paid from things like my Amazon affiliate account.
  11. Held for tax. The name should be self-explanatory. When I get paid from any of my side hustles, I set aside about 25% to cover any tax bill I may be missing. After I file my taxes, I shoot any leftover money out to my other savings goals or my credit card, as appropriate.

I also have a couple of monthly line items in Quicken that I haven’t broken into separate accounts, just to provide an overdraft buffer, like our gift budget.

That’s proof that I am over-banked. How about you? How do you track your savings goals?

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Filed Under: Finance Tagged With: credit card, Deposit account, Financial Services, ING Group, Quicken, Savings account, Transactional account
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