Six Year Loan in 10 Months

Back in October, I mentioned that we were taking on more debt.

2007 Chevrolet Tahoe photographed in USA. Cate...

2007 Chevrolet Tahoe photographed in USA. Category:GMT921 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Our plan was:

We now have a car loan for $21564. Our plan is to sell the Caliber for $9500 and the F150 for $6800. That will leave $5354. We have a beneficiary IRA that has to be cashed out relatively soon, so we’re planning to do that early in January to push the tax burden to next year, which will end the loan.

How has that worked out?

We made the final payment on the Tahoe today. Our first payment was December 10, 2012. It took us 10 months to pay off six year loan.

We had initially hoped to have it paid off by March. That didn’t happen. Our plan didn’t work, so how did we do it?

Here’s what happened:

We sold the F150 for $6400, cash.

We still haven’t cashed out the IRA.

We sold the Dodge Caliber for $8500, but….

(This is where the story starts.)

While we were fixing up our rental house, we met quite a few repairmen and installers of various expensive doo-dads. Several of them were interested in buying the Caliber. One of them convinced my wife that we should accept payments for it. That’s a mistake we’ve made before, but we decided to make it again.

We wrote up a loan agreement, listed ourselves as the lien holder on the title and sold the guy a car for $1500/month with no interest. It was supposed to be paid off in just a few month, so it didn’t seem like that big of a deal.

He made two payments, then disappeared for a while.

When he re-materialized, he told us he’d been in the hospital and had lost his job.

Crap.

When the time came to make his next payment, he told us he was going into the hospital for a couple of weeks, and he’d work something out after.

It’s “that kind” of hospital. The dry kind.

Suddenly, it was May and he was telling us his sister would help make payments because drinking yourself into rehab once a month makes it hard to keep a job.

Stories, excuses, BS.

Finally, we got sick of it. I like helping people, but I despise being lied to.

Repo time.

In Minnesota, if you’ve ever taken action(or not taken action) that would make it appear that you were okay with a modified payment plan contrary to the loan agreement-for example, not taking the car back after the first missed payment-you have to send a “Letter to Cure”, which is a 10-day notice of intent to repo. This gives the customer a chance to make things right.

On day 8, he called us, fresh from rehab, promising his sister would help him out. On day 10, she called. Her business had been broken into and she was working that out, but she’d arrange something with us after the weekend.

Crap, that sounds like more excuses.

Remember, this was already August, and the car was supposed to have been paid in early April. We’re such suckers.

By the middle of the week, she called and said she’d make the payment. My wife and I decided that we’d give her three days, then go take the car. On day 2, she said she was overnighting money.

On day three, we got a check and two postal money orders to cover the balance. $4500.

Today is the 10th day from that deposit. The check has cleared, and payment is off to the bank, killing the loan.

But wait, 4500 + 6400 is only $10,900. That leave $10,664 unaccounted for.

From the beginning, we were making double payments. Instead of paying $425 per month, we paid $850 most months, except when things got a little tight over the summer. The tax refund we got that we weren’t expecting also went to the loan. Every extra dollar got sent to the bank, because we weren’t sure how the car loan drama was going to end.

Taking the cars we sold out of the equation, we still paid off the remaining $10,664 in just 10 months. Interest payments came to about $300, which the buyer of the Caliber says he wants to pay us, but I’m not counting on it.

So again, we are debt free and have just freed up $850 in our monthly budget. Half of that will be getting saved for the next car, and half will go towards our other savings goals.

 

 

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More Debt

Even though we just paid off our credit cards in August and have started competing to pay off our mortgage, we opened a new debt account on Monday.

We’ve been shopping for a new(to us) car for a while. Simply put, we’ve outgrown our current vehicles.

As I said last week, these are our needs:

  • We have 5 people in our family. My 13-year-old son is bordering on 6 feet tall and shows no sign of not growing.
  • Every weekend, we have at least 1 extra kid, sometimes 2.
  • We still have a giant(24 foot) boat that we won’t be selling until spring.
  • My wife wants to lease a couple of ponies next summer, which will mean a horse trailer to haul them in.

We were looking for a GMC Acadia, which would meet our needs, but after talking to my brother-an Acadia owner-and the dealer, we decided it wouldn’t be the best fit. It would be marginal for towing the horses and the back row of the older models isn’t as roomy as the new one I sat in.

Saturday, we went to test drive an Acadia, which is where we had the conversation with the dealership. We ended up test-driving a Chevy Tahoe instead of the Acadia. With the options and mileage, it bluebooks for $27531, but they were using it as an online price leader and had it priced at $25000. Maybe I missed something, but the thing ran well, handled great, and the engine sounded good. As a way to get people on the lot, it worked.

Our plan was to put $5000 down, and see about trading in our Dodge Caliber and Ford F150. We brought the Caliber with us. Its bluebook value is $9,969. They offered us $5500, so we went home.

Sunday, we decided to sell the car and truck ourselves. We texted the salesman and offered $24,500. He accepted, we got a new truck that will fit our family and our needs.

With taxes, fees, and our down payment, we now have a car loan for $21564. Our plan is to sell the Caliber for $9500 and the F150 for $6800. That will leave $5354. We have a beneficiary IRA that has to be cashed out relatively soon, so we’re planning to do that early in January to push the tax burden to next year, which will end the loan.

Effectively, we’re paying about $300 in interest to give us a chance to move our assets around to take advantage of an SUV meeting our needs for $3000 under blue book. Yes, we could have waited until the assets were ready, but this truck wouldn’t have been there, so we jumped on it.

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Is It Time For a New Car?

So far this summer, we’ve sold a 1984 Cadillac, a 1994 Mercury Sable, and a 1976 Lincoln Continental.

Chevrolet Traverse

Chevrolet Traverse (Photo credit: .imelda)

That’s most of the vehicles we inherited in April.

Now, we’ve got a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica, a 2001 Ford F150, a 2009 Dodge Caliber, and a 1986 Honda Shadow.

According to Kelly Blue Book, the Caliber has a resale value of $10,065 and a trade-in value of $8470.

The F150 is worth $6,418/4,923.

The Pacifica is worth $7,738/$6,093.

The bike is worth about $1,500.

We own all of them, free and clear, right now.

With our current situation, the F150 and the Caliber aren’t working. We have 3 kids. The oldest is 12 and pushing 6 feet tall. He barely fits in the backseat of either and is forced to wedge himself against a car seat if we take either of these vehicles anywhere. Even the front seats don’t have a lot of leg room, and I’m not exactly short or small.

We are also a popular place to hang out and almost always have an extra kid or two on the weekends. Right now, that means we take two cars if we have to go somewhere.

On top of that, my girls ride in a saddle club on borrowed horses. We are planning to buy a horse trailer and (shudder) lease a couple of ponies next summer.

So, our requirements are:

  • Seat 7-8 people
  • Full-sized 3rd row
  • Towing capacity of at least 5000 pounds
  • More than 20mpg highway
  • Comfortable front seat

Based on our initial research, the Chevy Traverse meets our needs. Depending on the configuration, it seats 7 or 8 people with a full-sized 3rd row, has a 5200 pound towing capacity, and is rated for 24 mpg on the highway. Locally, there is a 2010 model with 50,000 miles for $19,000, which is dead-on with blue book. For another $1500, we can make it all wheel drive and 2011, which is below blue book. Consumer reports rates it pretty high, but Edmunds has some mixed reviews.

We should be able to sell the F150 and the Caliber for $12-13,000. That only leaves about $6,000 left, which we should have after the remodel on our rental property. I’m almost positive we’ll pull the trigger on a new car in the next month or two.

What do you think? Am I missing anything? Any experience with a Traverse? Have a better idea for something that meets our needs? Please leave a comment and help me out.

 

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